The Scoop on The Public House
Words Jesse Scaccia
Thursday, May 20th, 2010 at 10:29 am
When a new restaurant moves into the neighborhood, until you eat there for the first time, it’s like anticipating a blind date.
The same insecurities and hopes apply: Will it be beautiful? Will we have the same values when it comes to spending? Will it fit in with the rest of the family/neighborhood? And of course, how will it taste?
I’ll say this about The Public House, which is taking over the old Magnolia spot at the corner of Princess Anne and Colley: If she’s anything like her sisters, I’ve got a feeling it’s going to be love at first sight.

Still.
The Public House is the newest creation from the good folks that have given us Bardo in Ghent and Still in Portsmouth, two of AltDaily’s personal local favorites. One of the owners, Eric Stevens, graciously answered our questions about their remodeling of the site, the future of Ghent, and those horrible planters.
AltDaily: As you know, Ghent residents prefer their local dining establishments to have a personality, a character all its own. What will The Public House’s identity be, and how will that be expressed (i.e. theme, type of food)?
Eric Stevens: The Public House is going to be a throwback, casual neighborhood bar. Think Fells Point in Baltimore but with locals only. Everything comfort you look for in a restaurant. Dark wood, seating in large booths, pool, darts and maybe even a shuffleboard table so you can go out and do something besides stare at a television.
Our restaurants have always been about conversations between friends and while we will have a television or two, this is not a sports bar, this is a neighborhood bar. The cuisine will be interesting but all based in the old pub fare of years ago. No grand gestures to fusion in this place. Think hot dogs: but made in-house, think French fries: but fried in duck fat instead of veg oil, think big salads and interesting veggie and vegan options.
What sort of crowd are you shooting for?
The age group can be classified as “old enough to order a shot without calling it a shooter.”
What sort of physical changes can we expect from Magnolia in the interior?

The Public House, not quite ready for the public. (Photo | Eric Stevens)
You can’t take over the space from a restaurant that had an amazing 17-year run without drastically altering the interior. Let’s just say we hope you don’t recognize it.
And the exterior (which I think we’d all agree can use some work)?
You didn’t like the flower pots that looked like they were built to stop a suicide bomber? Yes new awnings, new patio, new windows, new doors, maybe even some sidewalk detail added. We will also be using the classic corner entrance as our front door.
Predict some customer favorites…
We’re still working on the menu, so it’s a little early to pick the faves now. I do think it’s safe to say that the duck fat fries are going to blow some minds, though.
You also own Still in Portsmouth and Bardo, also in Ghent. Why another one? Why now?
Karl and I have always looked at any space or project that has crossed our desks. We have looked at projects locally, in Erie PA, in Whitefish MO, an old Gold Barge in Breckenridge, CO. We’ll look anywhere. Every now and again something hits the radar screen that just looks like fun. The space screams fun!

More interior in development.
The businesses in Ghent seem to have been fairly resilient during this recession. Why do you think that is?
When you have independent businesses renting from independent landlords you have a shared goal of seeing each other succeed. The one comment that made me cringe during the recession has been folks who say “I can’t believe ‘insert name here’ is closing. I loved that place.” Then you find out they haven’t been there in a year.
The lesson I hope everyone has learned is that if you enjoy a business, frequent that business. Don’t have some national chain cater your event, give it to a local company who employees local folks and doesn’t send 70 percent back to some corporate office in Denver or LA. Restaurants collect an extra 6.5 percent tax that goes right into the city coffers. It is one of the easiest things you can do to support your city and your neighborhood.
A neighborhood is never complete, but is always evolving. What do you see in Ghent’s future? What is it missing?
Sidewalk vendors selling flowers and live outdoor music come to mind. Stop building city centers and focus your efforts on established neighborhoods that bring in folks like downtown, Ghent, Olde Towne Portsmouth. You know, places that already HAVE character.
When are you shooting for opening night?
Before the end of the year.
Anything you’d like to add?
Thanks for asking us about this project! We’d also like to thank Dr. Keith Newby because we would’t be doing this project without him.
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Jesse is the editor in chief of AltDaily, and he's going to take this bio seriously, but not so seriously that he's going to continue in the third person. I've been involved with a bunch of local projects and civic groups in various roles, including: Hampton Roads, The Canvas; Art | Everywhere, Street Performance in Norfolk; Survive Norfolk; Hampton Roads Pride/Out in the Park; Bike Norfolk; re:Vision Norfolk, and such.
I originally came to Norfolk as a Perry Morgan fellow in ODU's creative writing program. Before that I bummed around quite a bit, writing stacks of books that never got published, hitchhiking, couchsurfing, riding the Greyhound up down and back across this country. Some of my favorite jobs and volunteer gigs have included working on organic farms in Ireland; being first mate on an old sail boat in Holland; working at a long-term home for young men in South Africa; being a journalist and high school teacher in New York and California; washing dishes in Yosemite National Park; teaching English in DC and swimming in Florida; and interning at ESPN in Bristol, which was much less cool that you'd want it to be. My career highlights have been having three of my op-eds run in the New York Times, and being the executive producer of a six-part docu-drama on BET. Because school is cool I have three master's degrees (ODU for MFA, NYU for magazine journalism, University of Connecticut for secondary English education). I live in Norfolk because I believe in its potential. Email your ideas or nicely couched criticism to jesse@altdaily.com.
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You had me at shuffleboard.
- You had me at duck fat fries.
when are they staffing?
also, to add to things that ghent is missing: artisan bakery/patisserie.
YES THIS! I wish someone would take over the house/storefront almost on the corner of Redgate and Colley. It was a failed antique store. Now it’s sitting empty, still chock full o’ antiques. I’m not sure what happened. I do know it’s not a good location for a shop(no parking, very shaded, away from the other storefronts), but I think it could be a good bakery location. I think the hospital staff would go there. They already go there, to smoke.
Shuffleboard!!! Yes!
Will there be live music?
“Stop building city centers and focus your efforts on established neighborhoods”
I wish this was said in every interview, every day.
I was in Mag’s regularly during its last 2-3 years, and still miss it. Sounds like this place is picking up where Mag’s left off…can’t wait!
And I agree with the city center comment. I like Town Center, but I agree that this area needs some character.
At the risk of stating the obvious and sounding like an idiot, I only recently realized that the word “pub” comes directly from “public,” as in “a public bar where an everyman can drink, as opposed to a private, members-only watering hole.”
Everything Karl does is great. He has a fantastic imagination and knows how to implement concepts that have lasting appeal — modern-day classics. This should be another of his and his partners’ success stories.
ah, a proper pub to which i can walk. with these gentlemen at the reins, color me happy. i am along for the ride.
perhaps, the day will come when it is said, “where shall we go?” and the “Oh, …mag’s. uh, i mean i don’t know.” is replaced with, “the pub.” and we all speak the same language again.
it is a dream i have.
Can NOT wait! Need art? Murals?
Hey Harbor Gallery –
I’m Still/Bardo/The Public House’s marketing guy. They’re still in the demo phase of the renovation, but as they get closer, I’ll keep you posted. They’re definitely going to want the place to be warm and pub’d out, so to speak…
I am glad to see the space being used for something positive.
Can’t believe it took me so long to read this! I am SO excited about this I just can’t stand it!